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I have noticed that a lot of artists are moving to Asia to find jobs where they are far better respected and paid what they are worth. CGtrader has been growing steadily faster than Turbosquid for several years, that's why they are making this desperate "first blood" move asking their Investors for an extra cash to buy Sellers out against Marius and his people, with the promise that they will fuck you to death later once the war is won for the #SquidClan. There are lots of fun ways can gain points on cg trader . For small buyers this is likely the case, but serious corporate buyers may have other priorities atop of lowest price. Yes, CG Trader is the best now some bugs should be solved. Free3d.com7. Every freelancer is corporation of it's own. I will leave the items here to see if cg trader does manage to change things around over the next 12 months and if not will simply sell them on turbosquid. Yes, @limonadinis, I agree with you. "don't you think that corporate client would rather choose to get support from team of profesionals that are available 24/7, than from unknown person, who might respond with big delay or not respon at all?". NoneCG will be up for it. We finally have some real genuine completion for the best sales platform. Cubebrush. Dear Kanga you are absolutely right and on top of that you won't have to worry about their super buggy uploading system either. captainmarlowe is right. Hi John, you made very valid points. Sometimes you have to support the buyer. Using TurboSquid products in Browser based games. Doesnt matter the kind of kinky-dinky stuff the platform provides me. A good platform should integrate all next gen communication technologies in order to support curent evolution and technological progress. And i cannot take care for piracy or stolen models because the 3d stuff will go in piracy anyways, doensnt matter the platform it comes from. I would like to see similar stats from other sellers, but CGtrader has been the 3D marketplace with the higher increase in sales for us without a doubt.
Looks to me like they are providing a very content creator friendly environment. CGtrader is just better in all possible ways. CGTrader has a good plateform for selling already licensed things files but not selling the licence,your trapped into owning the licence. Show more, By subscribing you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use, max, fbx, blend, uasset, tbscene and more, obj, fbx, unitypackage, prefab, mat and more. Many do not search the net, they go directly to TS and search there for models. Free models are posted for lots of different reasons, not just only to serve as an example to show of artist modeling skills/quality of work (sample data). I see no point in closing when you might as well keep it open and get a couple sales. I really enjoy the chance to get to know other people's opinions and experiences regarding how they sell, network and do business and that is something I have only been able to do here on CGT. Without checkmate Turbosquid would have gone out of business. You could say CGt is a service platform that harbors and connects sellers and buyers of specific digital goods, in theory there's no limit to how much people and their digital products/services they could connect. This is from my own personal experience. Royalty rate of CGTrader allows the seller to make a model cheaper than on TurboSquid. Maybe some people don't want to bother about different programs compatibility, while others don't mind to spent time configuring things in different applications. Thanks for your feedback, it really makes sense. CGtrader is everything Ts is not, CGtader is fair, its open and communicative in all directions, its an inexpensive service, its new and more efficient, has lots of exiting tools, have more sales and get to keep bigger part, its growing fast, its updating and improving fast, etc, etc,. - Do you think that a company like Turbosquid, managed by/for corporate funding with clear monopolistic intentions is more likely to improve your situation as a content creator in the future? And IMHO search is an area where CGT shoul focus first. Like when something breaks that is no longer in production like your favorite mug or something. The people at the top of the pyramid scheme bully all the new modelers who show any sales success because they barely scrape by as it is so it is really bad work environment to work for Turbosquid is not worth your time. Here at CGtrader you can do all of that and much much more which is awesome!! They recently changed their search engine over there and when you search for Free models it comes up with a few free ones and many more paid ones so from that perspective Turbosquid makes your life even harder lol. Search is terrible, and lost if you have to go backwards a page. Closed my Ts account because it was completely useless and obsolete. . That is the most important reason for them to be on CGtrader and it is essential to reward them for helping artist and the site earn money. There is a lamp that looks pretty cool (Gervasoni Bolla Floor light), and is supposedly free. I think arguments of differences in search are irrelevant when someone is looking for the same model to compare prices between the two biggest players. So just to be constructive (and this will be my last post here, because I don't want to hijack the thread anymore, here are some ideas : The problem is that the site is not able to get a clear separation between CG and 3D printing. Ts indeed was able to maneuver into a very dominant position regarding the Autodesk partnership, allot of us are very familiar with that place because of it. Hopefully we can find a way that would plrase all sides. From buyer perspective, i think CGTrader also have lots of advantages. Well, after a long search, I found a negative point from CGTrader compared to TS. Thanks again guys, and let us know if you have any further comments or questions. Logout from your account and go to CGTrader home page. I was 2 times victim of credit card fraud on Ts, never happened on CGt so far. Get this item for $ when you bundle it with the items in your cart. Having too many high poly models in 1 scene can considerably slow down rendering times, work flow and even crash your computer making the entire scene unusable. Honestly I feel that it would be better to sell n bit slower that to have your models stolen. After all everyone can afford to put down 1 dollar so it is reasonable. ,,The only thing that has cgtrader extra is the freelance job,,?? Then came price guarantee on Ts and now I had a problem, the part I was now successfully serving on CGt I would not want to risk losing back to Ts, nor would I want to lose those few that kept buying my higher priced models there. The claim Turbosquid made was that it infringed on Games Workshop IPs. It's an example of waste of human recourses and time, because how many more are performing this same conversion work without telling? Yes, sometimes your points are not displayed for a day or two, but there were problems with the rating of models. "This is new era, time of old fashioned corporatism is going to be over. Over the years they have shown me that they really care about we think about the way things should be run and they have been adapting the website based on our combined ideas. They provide clients with pretty much everything they could possibly want at reasonable prices and have a 100 percent guarantee return policy on all their items. My initial idea was that Ts had some clients that do not know anything outside of Ts. Agree with every word above. If you manage to get lots of buyers on there you could make a real fortune. I remember that too! The title says it all!1. This is the Tesla Model 3. i think modeli unique and has need to be bought depend on the buyers not the seller
In my opinion, the worst Turbosquid is doing is minimizing the role and presence of the real content creators, being just a middleman reseller but trying to control all aspects of the product in a way that in the end the customer perceives it more like a "Turbosquid product" than a "Content-creator-X product". If there is a problem they will fix it for you.
But at the same time they require all rights to the model, and the model is removed from sale at all sites. (I prefer not to learn/spent time to handle all the different 3D applications and conversions) Send of two customers so far (here on CGt), hoe asked for a maya version of this model. Ah crap, not sure how that referal spam sneaked into turbosquid link, here is the clean one: https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/cathedral-paris-notre-dame-3d-obj/933856, I think that subsequently only large studios and squidguild members will remain there. The reason the model is sold at low price .some models have so many other sellers which can lose models value . A rig is like a skeleton of a 3D model, which lets you move and pose it with little effort. NoneCg I've read almost all your information regarding the public issues. [link="http://www.google.com"]google1[/link] Hey there, Is it the return guarantee if not satisfied? I'm just dreading that sober moment when TS offers to buy CGT to kill off the competition. Of course Matt Wisdom was disoriented and he was associated with Pixel SQUID bankruptcy. My personal experience, having had a short stint as a 3d print seller on Turbosquid, is that they paint with way too broad a brush when it comes to potential IP infringement. [url=http://www.google.com]google2[/url] royalty scale you work up on is all very cool the fact you can print here sell files here and stream files all on one listing CG TRADER FOR THE WIN!!! - CGTrader pays a LOT more than TS; TS *keeps* 60% unless you sell exclusively on their site and join their "Squid Guild". Being between a rock (TS) and a hard place (CT) is a damn round the clock aggravation. @Urecky, while i'm agree with you in general, let me argue on some specific points. Payment Method CGtrader might have better conditions, rules and everything but it's useless if it doesn't attract more buyers. In this case a collaborative action could be established to make the product more attractive. And it offers a more strategic dimension. You could have a superman body with an iron man head and spiderman gloves. Turbosquid is butt ugly and greedy, I hope when CG gets bigger than TS, they don't end up the same way.
This is not a "fight" between NoneCG and Turbosquid, but a struggle between different ways of doing business: the classic closed market or a more open one based on a Fair Business model and full comunication between the producer, the marketer and the customer. A own store where you can fill your offers with stuff found in the large pool would account for a thumbs up for the people hoes products get placed in those stores. If CGT would manage to draw more buyers from TS then even more sellers would migrate here. I can't imagine that competing sellers would go for such things as you described, but who knows, there are plenty nuts all around :]. 3. Part of it is because they don't want to get scammed. If you look around on the net on all the various forums everyone always mentions Turbosquid be it positively or negatively. And reasons can be any. Unlike Turbosquid which has remained practically the same since it was created and that actually has become dodgier over time as they have been adding more and more hoops for artists to jump through just to upload a basic model CGT has been great about constantly listening to it's artists needs and made great improvements! found jet another working example that makes CGt stand out. Market your products turbo squid does that for you i understand but if your trying to sell you have to show the customers where its at. In place already. I think this game can only be won by the best community building force and that is CGt. and cgtrader is easy to navigate and great UI, Turbosquid is a very shit comparing to CGTrader, i dont like turbosquid i prefer CGtrader absolutely, I think it is more comfortable to use. And to be fair, you will never get exact 40% from squid either, because they have payout fees too and also they withold certain amount from US purchases. There are very few modelers out there who can actually support themselves financially doing this and whenever one of us sells anything it is a little like winning the lottery. Also you need to think about the advantage of not having to worry about shipping costs etc with digital art. So, Ts will probably have a few thousand lawsuits to issue in following months if they like. The age of 3D models is over and people have moved on to 3D printing. its hard to run such a business so i hope cgtrader will survive in the future. I imagine a totally different mentality is going on in the Ts room, where top talents probably just like to leave the building because a few individuals like to keep things in check (you know like in the old top down pyramidal structured way). One of the biggest problems in this country is that the games and film studios are becoming a bit of a joke and not getting the funding they used to have. - It's much easier to upload products here than at TS. Old thread but still relevant, do yourself a favour and cut back on the seafood, delete TS bookmarks and make progress here. I was thinking of ok if the ts is shit why not using other marketplace with the cgt specially if both accept selling in other marketplace, You have zero 3D models uploaded here. When you just start out you have to price your models at 1 dollar or give them away for free but the second you start selling well they take your models offline and force you to raise your prices Once you raise your prices nobody buys and you are back to square 1. Lots of people buy posters to print and put on their walls especially students. If a company like Disney or NASA buys a model at TS, they advertise it as "Turbosquid customers buying Turbosquid models". So my own experience on sales is of little value. "TurboSquid Support, Jun 20, 08:14 SST: ", then there is little one can do but wait out the rebalancing. 60% is an insult. You want to put it in your store but it obviously needs some work to make it marketable. TurboSquid be avoided guys! Very soon there will be robots that can scan objects faster than any modeler can model them and then reproduce a print almost instantly in 10 to 30 years 3D jobs will be irrelevant but until then someone needs to really bring CGtrader to the big markets. This is why I would opt for a system which includes human sorting out capabilities. Advertising? - Guides/Tips for sellers regarding prices/quality to minimize the undercutters problem. At the moment i think its more a community of sellers and not so much of buyers. I know I personally would be Heh.. that's another topic but my top selling model is nude. On Ts we get served for extreme large cost and rather badly frankly said. I do feel cg trader gives the artists a better price and the share is fair . Rigged 3D Models | CGTrader 3D Models Buy or download free Rigged 3D Models Rigged 3D models are your best choice when you need a character or object to perform unique movements. It is currently selling on the of TS is much higher than on CGT. The designers make a deal with each other and negotiate a percentage on the sales. flob3d: I don't know if Jonathan invented the CheckMate, but what I can say is that Jonathan is a good professional and he often helped me a lot, so I have no complaints to make. cgtrader is far better than turbosquid in my opinion coz cgtrader offer 80% royalti payment and turbo only give you 40% royalti payment which is sad. I've often (not just at this site) downloaded "free" items to verify their quality before purchasing models from a vendorI had problems with 3-4 of the "free" items I looked at first here (having no idea there was a limit), and now I can download no more. Sure you get a lot more income from The3Dstudio. Open a Support Ticket, Licensing questions?Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager. Turbosquid has the traffic and so you get the sails. We will only contact you if there's a problem with an order. Yes CGtrader is great! Think about the best online stores today when people search for lamps on Amazon they will only find lamps in their search and that is why they keep buying on Amazon because it is a highly efficient and professional site where the buyers don't get lost or frustrated looking for what they want and can spend their time searching for the best quality product based on their budget. There are very few modelers out there who can actually support themselves financially doing this and whenever one of us sells anything it is a little like winning the lottery. They don't allow you to communicate with the customer, with Turbosquid support acting as a "human firewall" (and a bad one) that is constantly supervising every interaction to ensure that Turbosquid always gets the best outcome (and neither the seller nor the customer). More specifically, the 3D Model may not be exported or sold. I'm glad CGtrader and its community of supporters is able to make this situation come to an end. On "woman", print-ready jewels and scanned models again come in the way. I like this site more, because, firstly, it has a much more pleasant and understandable interface, gives a higher percentage of the sale (on a TS, it looks more like a tip if you are not a member of their club), and generally it works more stable. There is a lamp that looks pretty cool (Gervasoni Bolla Floor light), and is supposedly free. For some people with experience that did the math taking all factors in count (not talking about just NoneCG, of course) it was crystal clear since many years ago. Although I agree the presentation of CGtraders home page is heavily focused at 3D printing, NoneCG did not suffer ANY drop in sales. It is also wise to invest in good ideas that are future proof. I left the turbosquid from Diamond level . Noise Treshold: Animated Lion 3D Model 14. You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. Then I contacted Eduardas and Mantas who refused to remove the rating, 2. CGTrader has the better platform from my point of view, better rates if i remember correct. Important detail : CGTrader allows communication between customers and sellers ! I removed all products from TS. I do not know if community-policing has helped other sites keep their products better organized. It was the most unpleasant experience. If the buyer decided to buy after inspecting a sample, the seller would deduct the sample price from another 3d model. TurboSquid is not a company that practices any kind of #FairBusiness, and there is many other cases from other people stating the same for different reasons:
CGTrader. I'm even considering seriously closing my store here. 3D stock would have main subs like architectural, medical, automotive, etc). I can easily imagine that serious clients who value their time very high, might choose TS over CGT without second thought. At the time my CGt account was not performing so well and it enforced that belief (it was probably due to longer presence and better position on Ts and new on CGt). In 2020, I've opened a CGT account and start selling interesting 3D Models. http://content.screencast.com/users/Lenwe/folders/Default/media/96a1c5f2-d18b-4e5c-ab3c-01bd5189b9ca/TurboSquid_Monopoly.png
Chat with Support 24/7 For example, I ran into this this morning. My sales are not still on par with TS, but I haven't published new models for quite some time, because I only have time to create models to enter challenges from time to time. There are currently no models in your cart. By registering you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use, Rigged 3D models are your best choice when you need a character or object to perform unique movements. I stumbled across the same issues! But Also Turbosquid actively promotes models on their site with the use o. This is due to discrimination in the pricing policy of the "TS" site. The site owners could also act on other various levels : (I'm aware this involves many aspects)
The advance search option should obviously only be available for paid models so to avoid people only free loading and just finding all the free models. ,,Checkmate,, from TS was actually invented by Jonathan Lloyd, the person who ruined Pixel SQUID :). Fine details have been sculpted on the model down to pores and fine lines on the face and body. Absurd as it may sound, a lot of customers doesn't even make a simple "XXXX 3D model" search and go to Turbosquid just because that's a name they heard before. [http://www.google.com google5 ] It needs to be obvious where to go if you want one or the other. You can just buy and return it if it is not to your satisfaction. Also the management is awkward on TS. "google8":www.google.com, google10 I tested it with golden palace, clothing and various hair, other textures, they all worked fine August 22, 2022 at 6:03 am #1859211 Sabrina Participant Rank: @Goblyn Glad you enjoy it! Luckily, non of my sells on TS were refunded so far and i had 3 refunds on CGT, 2 of them was caused by technical reasons from CGT side. They should make more effort to advertise. A few months went by with my models offline and during that time my GCt sales gradually went up at a level consistent with the few sales I had left behind on Ts so I just deleted all my models at Ts. Due to its royalty politic and complex registration process, I've finally stopped selling 3D models on TS.
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